...Let's Talk Politics......

Posted on: October 2, 2008 - 11:43pm
...Let's Talk Politics......
With the election right around the corner and two more presidential debates coming up, I wanna see what everyone thinks. We're the young adults that could be the very votes that could make or break this election. What are your thoughts on the candidates? Who do you think will come out on top? And where are our first time voters at? This is our god given right to decide who will lead this country. A freedom a civil liberty not given to people in some countries. 

After that rant, I'll start the discussions.

I'm a big Hilliary supporter. Cried like an infant when she lost the nomination, but oh well. I've looked at the Obama/Biden ticket, and it's something I can get on board with because one John McCain, he's going to drag this war out even longer than it has to be. Alaska is going to be drilled, and I'm more of a nature conservationist, and that can't happen. Why does nature have to suffer because of my needs? There are numerous alternatives. And Obama has those alternatives in mind. I know the Biden/Obama ticket doesn't support gay marriage. But they are all for same-sex couples having the same rights as heterosexuals.  Health Care is a big thing for me, like something needs to be done to cover uninsured americans. Me being one of them. I don't want a 5,000 tax credit, which will eventually be taxed, and won't cover anything. Like yes it may cover prevenitive check-ups, but what if during that check-up doctors find something then the bills are going to be alot higher than a checkup. 5,000 isn't going to cover anything. I don't like Sarah Palin. I know McCain thought he was smart by adding a woman to his ticket after the Hillary thing, but did he have to choose a dumb broad?

There's more but I want other people to chime in. Also, first time voters, what's fueling your choice, is it the canidates personalites, their policies? I wanna know. 

-Smurf

Posted on: October 3, 2008 - 2:32am #1
lets all clarify this people who are for gay marriages it is a bliblical term describing a the bond in God's eyes between a man and woman in holy matrimony. now we wouldn't want these people telling us how to use I dunno a term like lets say Gender queer, we know what we mean when we use it but if the world was telling us it should also apply to this or that and we didnt agree with it we would be outraged right so lets let them have their term and just fight for equal rights, Who needs  a christian term to dictate wether or not we are in love with our partners I am perfectly happy with the term Civil Union lets focus on the bigger picture and realize they will much easier accept civil unions and give us equal rights then share their term. On to the next part of this rant of mine lol do you really think Obama is gonna end the war like that it takes months even years to end a war it never just ends and quiete frankly I would vote neither Obama or McCain. Also I see so Many people calling Palin a dumb  broad but she is more experienced then Obama so if she is unqaulified as VP what makes you think Barack is capable of running the Office I may not agree with their Platforms in  itsEntirity but at least McCain & Palin have the experience it takes together to run the country but as I said I will probably vote for neither I was really hoping for Clinton this year and have somewhat lost interest all together......... ok deep breath just had to do it sorry
Posted on: October 3, 2008 - 1:33pm #2
The concept of marriage predates the Bible. The concept also exists in numerous cultures in same sex forms. marriage was cocopted in Europe by the Christian religion and has now for 1500 years been run there according to that faith. My own faith has no problem recognizing same sex marriage. So I can't really agree with you in the marriage issue. The dfinitions of marriage have changed drastically in just the last 100 years in the US and there have been large legal changes in that arena. I'm all for same sex marriage for those who want it. In fact I live in Mass and I have performed a same sex marriage as the minister.
My biggest problems in this election is that there are some seriously flawed views about economics active in both parties and so I don't think that either one or the other can save or fix our economy. Tha being said I do believe tyhat McCain will be worse for our economy than will Obama.
On issues of rights for people and acceptance I again think that Obama will be better. On foreign policy and overall attitude toward the leaders of the rest of the world, again I see an Obama administration having more respect for other nations. As for education, I think that once again Obama will endevor to do a better job. I prefer the Obama approach to the McCain approach to taxation and also to regulation.
As for the use of US military forces abroad I think that Obama will have more restrain and will try to get us out of Iraq much faster.
Posted on: February 7, 2009 - 5:38pm #3
Marriage as defined by modern Christians has NOTHING to do with marriage as defined in the Bible.

In the Bible, for one thing, marriage is NEVER monogamous-- just check out how many wives and concubines all those guys had! Also, women were the property of their husbands. Disobediant children could be-- and were supposed to be!-- stoned to death. So were unfaithful wives, or women who were found not to be virgins on their wedding night.

Thank God modern Christians are over most of that barbaric, out-dated crap.

Now, "civil union" is NOT just a "different term" for marriage. Legally it is NOT the same thing at all.

Also, as I stated in another thread, even for heterosexual couples, marriage is not necessarily religious. Many straight couples have civil marriages and don't go to a church for any kind of religious ceremony at all.
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